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Derived Houses

 

“In my father’s house are many mansions,” Jesus is said to have said.  And in each house in a chart are associations related to all the other houses - wheels within wheels – somewhat similar to the “duad” idea with signs, where each sign contains a sub-vibration of all other signs.  (With duads, each 2-1/2° increment takes on the flavor of each successive sign.  For example: 0° - 2-1/2° of Aries is the Aries duad, 2-1/2° - 5° of Aries is the Taurus duad, 5° - 7-1/2° of Aries is the Gemini duad, and so on.)  Thus, we have a rich fabric of interactive possibilities to help describe every situation under the sun.

 

The word “derived” connotes origins (like the derivation of words), where something comes from.  The American Heritage Dictionary defines it as “obtained or received from a source, arrived at by reasoning, deduced,” with roots “spring from” or “draw off,” literally from (de) the river (rive).  

 

A “derived house” is the one where you land when you count around the chart from another house, not the house where you begin.  Derived houses incorporate the associations of traditional house meanings but from the perspective of other houses.  For example, your marital partner’s boss would be signified by the house of the boss (10th) as counted from (derived from) the house of the partner (7th).  You treat the 7th House “as if” it is a 1st House (it’s the house of origin) and count it as 1, then count the 8th House as 2, the 9th as 3, and so on around the chart, arriving at the 4th House as the 10th from the 7th.  Thus the 4th House signifies the partner’s boss.  Derived houses are used extensively in horary astrology to find the appropriate chart location for a given person or situation.

Derived houses are as follows:

1

1st from the 1st, 2nd from the 12th, 3rd from the 11th, 4th from the 10th, 5th from the 9th, 6th from the 8th, 7th from the 7th, 8th from the 6th, 9th from the 5th, 10th from the 4th, 11th from the 3rd and 12th from the 2nd

7

1st from the 7th, 2nd from the 6th, 3rd from the 5th, 4th from the 4th, 5th from the 3rd, 6th from the 2nd, 7th from the 1st, 8th from the 12th, 9th from the 11th, 10th from the 10th, 11th from the 9th and 12th from the 8th

2

1st from the 2nd, 2nd from the 1st, 3rd from the 12th,  4th from the 11th, 5th from the 10th, 6th from the 9th, 7th from the 8th, 8th from the 7th, 9th from the 6th, 10th from the 5th, 11th from the 4th and 12th from the 3rd.

8

1st from the 8th, 2nd from the 7th, 3rd from the 6th, 4th from the 5th, 5th from the 4th, 6th from the 3rd, 7th from the 2nd, 8th from the 1st, 9th from the 12th, 10th from the 11th, 11th from the 10th and 12th from the 9th

3

1st from the 3rd, 2nd from the 2nd, 3rd from the 1st, 4th from the 12th, 5th from the 11th, 6th from the 10th, 7th from the 9th, 8th from the 8th, 9th from the 7th, 10th from the 6th, 11th from the 5th, 12th from the 4th

9

1st from the 9th, 2nd from the 8th, 3rd from the 7th, 4th from the 6th, 5th from the 5th, 6th from the 4th, 7th from the 3rd, 8th from the 2nd, 9th from the 1st, 10th from the 12th, 11th from the 11th and 12th from the 10th

4

1st from the 4th, 2nd from the 3rd, 3rd from the 2nd, 4th from the 1st, 5th from the 12th, 6th from the 11th, 7th from the 10th, 8th from the 9th, 9th from the 8th, 10th from the 7th, 11th from the 6th, 12th from the 5th

10

1st from the 10th, 2nd from the 9th, 3rd from the 8th, 4th from the 7th, 5th from the 6th, 6th from the 5th, 7th from the 4th, 8th from the 3rd, 9th from the 2nd, 10th from the 1st, 11th from the 12th and 12th from the 11th

5

1st from the 5th, 2nd from the 4th, 3rd from the 3rd, 4th from the 2nd, 5th from the 1st, 6th from the 12th, 7th from the 11th, 8th from the 10th, 9th from the 9th, 10th from the 8th, 11th from the 7th and 12th from the 6th

11

1st from the 11th, 2nd from the 10th, 3rd from the 9th, 4th from the 8th, 5th from the 7th, 6th from the 6th,  7th from the 5th, 8th from the 4th, 9th from the 3rd, 10th from the 2nd, 11th from the 1st, 12th from the 12th

6

1st from the 6th, 2nd from the 5th, 3rd from the 4th, 4th from the 3rd, 5th from the 2nd, 6th from the 1st, 7th from the 12th, 8th from the 11th, 9th from the 10th, 10th from the 9th, 11th from the 8th and 12th from the 7th

12

1st from the 12th, 2nd from the 11th, 3rd from the 10th, 4th from the 9th, 5th from the 8th, 6th from the 7th, 7th from the 6th, 8th from the 5th, 9th from the 4th, 10th from the 3rd, 11th from the 2nd and 12th from the 1st

It's easier to look at the information this way:

1st House perspective

1

1st

7

7th

2

2nd

8

8th

3

3rd

9

9th

4

4th

10

10th

5

5th

11

11th

6

6th

12

12th

 

2nd House perspective

1

12th

7

6th

2

1st

8

7th

3

2nd

9

8th

4

3rd

10

9th

5

4th

11

10th

6

5th

12

11th

 

3rd House perspective

1

11th

7

5th

2

12th

8

6th

3

1st

9

7th

4

2nd

10

8th

5

3rd

11

9th

6

4th

12

10th

 

 

4th House perspective

1

10th

7

4th

2

11th

8

5th

3

12th 

9

6th

4

1st 

10

7th

5

2nd 

11

8th

6

3rd

12

9th

 

5th House perspective

1

9th

7

3rd

2

10th

8

4th

3

11th

9

5th

4

12th  

10

6th

5

1st

11

7th

6

2nd

12

8th

 

6th House perspective

1

8th

7

2nd 

2

9th

8

3rd

3

10th

9

4th

4

11th  

10

5th

5

12th 

11

6th

6

1st 

12

7th

 

7th  House perspective

1

7th  

7

1st

2

8th

8

2nd 

3

9th 

9

3rd 

4

10th

10

4th

5

11th

11

5th

6

12th

12

6th

 

8th House perspective

1

6th

7

12th

2

7th

8

1st 

3

8th

9

2nd

4

9th

10

3rd

5

10th

11

4th

6

11th

12

5th

 

9th House perspective

1

5th

7

11th

2

6th

8

12th

3

7th 

9

1st

4

8th 

10

2nd

5

9th 

11

3rd

6

10th

12

4th

 

10th House perspective

 

1

4th

7

10th

2

5th

8

11th

3

6th 

9

12th

4

7th

10

1st

5

8th

11

2nd

6

9th 

12

3rd

 

11th House perspective

 

1

3rd

7

9th 

2

4th

8

10th

3

5th

9

11th

4

6th  

10

12th

5

7th 

11

1st

6

8th 

12

2nd 

 

12th House perspective

 

1

2nd 

7

8th

2

3rd

8

9th

3

4th

9

10th

4

5th  

10

11th

5

6th 

11

12th

6

7th

12

1st

 

Houses can be associated with elements, and that might add a nuance to interpretation:

Fire houses:  1, 5, 9

Earth houses:    2, 6, 10

Air houses:   3, 7, 11

Water houses:  4, 8, 12

This is a technique employed in horary astrology.  Also, give extra credence to the angular houses as places of stronger power: 1, 4, 7 and 10.

From horary astrology we also pick up the idea of treating like situations in a sibling kind of way.  For instance, early education is located in the 3rd house and some astrologers consider this grade school, with junior high in the 5th (3rd from the 3rd), high school in the 7th (3rd from the 5th), college in the 9th (3rd from the 7th) and if you go on to graduate school, that’s the 11th (3rd from the 9th), etc.   Or, if you own several pieces of property, the 1st piece is located in the 4th house, the 2nd would be like the sibling property to the first piece and would be located in the 3rd from the 4th, namely the 6th.  The next piece of property would be the 3rd from the 6th, namely the 9th, and so on.  In his book on horary, Horary Astrology Plain and Simple, Tony Louis points to this as a rather rare, exception-to-the-rule employed by some modern horary astrologers.  But he warns that if you did not own the second piece of property but rather you were considering buying it, it would not be considered as a sibling to the first piece.  Ancients would usually use the 4th house again to consider that second piece of property, although you could stand at the 4th and count to the natural house of the matter (4th), and arrive at the 7th (4th from the 4th).  For another example from Tony, if you were asking about moving from one career position to another, go to the 10th and count 10 from there, coming to the 7th.  Consider the significators of both the 10th and the 7th houses in relation to the significators of the 1st house to see which position is better for the querent (the person in question).  (Significators are the planets ruling the cusp signs and any planets in the houses in question.)

There is a modern twist on ancient houses.  The ancients always located the father in the 4th house of family roots.  (After all, we take our names from our fathers in our patriotic culture.)  The mother is located in the 10th as the spouse of the father (7th from the 4th).  Modern astrologers often locate the mother in the 4th as the home-related parent and the 10th as the father because he represents the family to the outer world.  You can go either way, but pick a method and stick to it.

EXAMPLES

In my chart, we can look for the birth of my great niece, the daughter of my sister’s son: sister = 3, child = 5, 5th from the 3rd (sister’s child) = 7th, 5th from the 7th (sister’s child’s child) = 11th.  The birth was Nov. 10, 2002, with transiting Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Pluto all aspecting my South Node in my 11th.  The next day was a 1st Quarter Moon right on my North Node in my 5th with the Sun T-squaring to my Nodes.  Maybe this little girl is someone I knew in a past life or with whom I’ll have a special relationship in this life. 11th is an “air’ house, so perhaps communication with her will be important in some way.

 

In the case of the horary for the woman about getting a new career position, it’s the situation like Tony discussed: look at the 10th from the 10th, which is the 7th.  In the horary, we find Gemini at the Desc and Saturn in Gemini in the 7th.  In Solar Fire’s horary ratings for essential dignities, Mercury is a +5 and Saturn is a +1, both of which bode well.  Saturn is a natural indicator for career, as well, and we find the benefic Venus is applying to a sextile to Saturn.  Mercury is about to receive a quincunx from the Moon at the MC, so it does sound like there would at least be some kind of adjustment or compromise in the situation (and indeed, if she does get the job, it’s not her first choice of where she wanted to work but it’s an acceptable second).

 

Try playing with derived houses – you just might find that they add a layer to your interpretations that you had not considered before!

 

© 2006 Janet Booth, AstrologyBooth.com


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